I agree with you that engineering cannot fix the mess. Our energy policy is driven by green ideology . Don't look for technical solutions to political problems.
See what happened at Yucca Mountain. Billions of dollars were spent on technical studies, which did not solve a problem that is political.
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Jerry, thanks for posting. Interesting bit of historical and current context. Effective slides. I am not sure of his claim though that since today is not 1906 then the answer is not to bring back Ontario Hydro. He may be right but just because public expectations, the marketplace, etc are different does not mean that an OH type organization is wrong. I just don't follow the logic. Also I totally agree that Ontario's energy policy needs engineering input. But it wasn't engineering that made a mess of Ontario's energy situation and I rather doubt that it is engineering that will fix it.
I cross posted this thread to the CNS list server since it is relevant to that list.
At 01:29 AM 02/09/2011, Jerry Cuttler wrote:
There were many speakers, a few were quite interesting, but the best presentation was by Jan Carr, former CEO of the OPA.
Below, I've provided the link to his remarkable ppt slides.
From: Jan Carr
Sent: September-01-11 10:23 PM
To: Jerry Cuttler
Subject: Today's Slides
Gerry: The slide deck is a big file due to pictures so I have parked it for downloading at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9678060/Carr%20-%20Engineering%20Ontario%27s%20Electricity%20Policy%20-%201Sept11.ppt .
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