http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=WO2004025666&DISPLAY=DESC These Hyperion guys seem to be trying pretty hard to be legitimate. I guess I will try to read this application. That will keep me quiet for a while. -- Randal Leavitt - another Ubuntu user http://positiveenergy.blogspot.com/ http://www.simpy.com/user/randalleavitt/links http://tinyurl.com/hgvmg