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RE: [cdn-nucl-l] " Why should taxpayers subsidize hybrids? "
Hi All,
According to more than a few web pages, the new Honda Accord V6 Hybrid gets
far more than the 25 mpg the article states.
http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022737&src=News
and
www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2004-09-23-accord-hybrid_x.htm
say 30 mpg in town, 37 highway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Accord_Hybrid
says EPA estimates are 29 city / 37 highway. I couldn't find a single site
that has a figure as low as the one in the article.
Again for the Toyota highlander hybrid, 22 mpg looks far too low.
www.eere.energy.gov/news/news_detail.cfm/news_id=8981
says EPA estimates were 31 / 27 mpg, a 30% improvement over the non-hybrid
model.
www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2005-05-19-highlander_x.htm
says 33/28 for front wheel drive, 31/27 for all wheel drive.
EPA data for all available hybrids are here:
www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/hybrid_sbs.shtml
The non-hybrid Toyota Yaris may get 39 combined mpg, but comparing it (106
HP 1.5L V4) to a 255HP V6 hybrid Accord or a 265HP 3.3L V6 hybrid Highlander
SUV doesn't seem make a lot of sense.
Adam
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[mailto:cdn-nucl-l-admin@mailman1.cis.McMaster.CA] On Behalf Of Rod Adams
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [cdn-nucl-l] " Why should taxpayers subsidize hybrids? "
I think the article got it wrong in at least one detail. My Jetta TDI
has been getting in excess of 45 miles per gallon (US) in a mixture
of aggressive highway driving and numbing stop and start driving in
Washington, DC for more than 4 years and 100,000 miles. I believe
that the quoted MPG for the Jetta in the article below is for the 4
cylinder gasoline model.
I wonder about the morality of the well healed and politically active
people that actively seek hybrid subsidies for luxury cars while
loudly denouncing payments that help poor people just get by. I would
bet that certain Californians have both luxury hybrids and luxury
homes with solar panels, both of which received substantial taxpayer
subsidies without doing anything to reduce pollution or dependence on
diminishing fossil fuel resources.
Makes me ashamed to be a registered, but not very happy Republican.
Rod
On Apr 1, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Jaro wrote:
SNIP
>
> Consumer Reports has identified several conventional cars that get
> better
> mileage than most hybrids. The Toyota Echo family sedan (recently
> replaced
> by the similar Yaris) averages a remarkable 38 mpg. The Volkswagen
> Jetta
> diesel gets 34. Several other conventional sedans get 30 mpg or
> better. By
> contrast, most of the new crop of hybrids are big vehicles that get
> well
> under 30 mpg.
>
SNIP
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