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Re: [cdn-nucl-l] Fw: Nuclear shipyard worker study



I ordered a copy of the NSWS (~2 inches thick) from the AECL library (more than 10 years ago) and read through much of it, skimming over some sections.  It was slow going, but I found interesting tables on overall mortality.  (Bernard Cohen demonstrated recently that 24% lower mortality translates into an average lifespan extension of ~2.8 years.)  I wish I had had more knowledge of medicine and medical terminology when I was reading it.  The information on the lower cancer mortality of the NSWs was quite obscure.
Jerry
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [cdn-nucl-l] Fw: Nuclear shipyard worker study


I have just downloaded the shipyard study from the NTIS web site for US$8.95.  (You can go to
<www.ntis.gov/search>, search on shipyard and radiation, and the download info should pop up -- but see below.) 

It's 452 pages, as a 12.5 MB PDF file.  For the most part it's legible, but it's in some sort of graphic form that does not let you copy selections for pasting elsewhere.  I suppose portions could be put through an OCR (optical character recognition) process if one were desperate.

Assuming (safely, I suspect) that I don't get swamped with requests, I can send it as an attachment for free to anyone who wants it (but remember, it's over 12 megabytes).  This would seem to be legal, since the front page has the notation "Distribution of this document is unlimited."

Now all I have to do is read it.

        George Stanford

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At 11:31 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, Jerry Cuttler forwarded:
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Rockwell
To: Multiple recipients of list ans-pie
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: RE: Nuclear shipyard worker study

> The report should be available in most good research libraries.

Friends:

The point is not that you cannot get hold of a copy, if you have friends in
the system.  The point is that, unlike many lesser reports, there was no
attempt to formally publish this landmark study and submit it to mainline
journals for widespread scientific review.  In fact, when Ethel Gilbert gave
a report claiming to summarize the studies of nuclear workers worldwide, she
did not include this one.  When I asked her why, on the record at an annual
NCRP meeting, she said she hadn't been able to get a copy (although she
works for DOE).  LNT advocates use this argument both ways, claiming as
Gilbert did, that it wasn't available, or arguing as someone else did
recently that it had never been peer reviewed, so it wasn't considered
valid.
Yet others will argue, when you accuse them of suppression, "Of course it's
available.  I have a copy right here.  Do you want me to send you a copy?
There's been no suppression!"  Does that pass the smell test?

The other point is that Art Upton was head of the Technical Advisory Panel
during the whole duration of the study.  This panel had no other function
but to assure the validity of the comparison between the irradiated workers
and the controls, selected from a population of 700,000 nuclear shipyard
workers and selected for age, job, gender and other demographic factors to
match with corresponding irradiated workers.  Upton apparently thought they
were doing a good job for those many years.  Now he faults the study.

When DOE was finally forced to put out a one-page press release on the
study, DOE attributed the results to the "healthy worker effect," which is
transparently false, since both subjects and controls were workers under
similar conditions except for radiation.

This is crooked, people!  Not sloppy, nor naive, nor casually wrong. Just
plain manipulation to distort the science for political reasons.  And after
they argue that you can't learn anything from epidemiology--that you have to
follow individuals to their death--then they terminate the program to follow
up the last 1000 radium dial painters to their death. That study was showing
unequivocally that the threshold for harmful effects from ingested radium
was about 1000 rad--20,000 rem!  "We can't have that sort of data showing
up, now can we?"

The scientific community, like the business community, the police and most
other communities, cannot keep protecting their own community by pretending
there are no bad activities going on.  It didn't work for Enron, Anderson,
the NYPD and others, and it won't work for us.  When the lights suddenly
come on, do you want to be seen holding the flashlight, or scurrying back
into the woodwork?

Ted Rockwell

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